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Answers to the Questions of Ms. Ulla Jelpke(*), PDS

Interview with E. Havin, Head of the Office for Foreign Affairs of the Socialist Party of Kurdistan (PSK), on the Planned US Strikes Against Iraq

1. It appears as if the US government is determined to enter into a war against Saddam’s government in Iraq. What position does the PSK take in respect of the USA’s plans?

Like the war in Afghanistan, the USA will go to war against the Saddam regime only out of its own interests. The “War on Terror” is just a pretext. It is an attempt by the USA, especially the arms and oil monopolists, to shape the world in its new phase.

Our views on any planned US war against the Saddam regime are consistent, on the main points, with those of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan. Those that have suffered the most under Saddam, and have been the targets for his terror, are chiefly the Kurds. For years now the regime has been destroying Kurdistan. Even poison gas has been used against the Kurds. Regrettably, the world remained silent then.

In 1975 US Foreign Secretary Kissinger urged the Kurds to go to war with a promise of support, and then left them hanging. The war led to a bitter defeat for the Kurdish national movement.

Bush senior encouraged Kurds and Shiites to revolt during the Gulf War of 1990-91, but then eventually left them on their own. The Kurds have not forgotten this and they shouldn’t forget it. They should not allow themselves to be dragged into any war perpetrated out of US interests.

Furthermore, from the point of view of the Kurds and the Iraqi people as a whole, a solution will not be achieved just by Saddam going.

If no positive developments can take place in Iraq following Saddam’s fall, and if one dictator is just replaced by another, why then is a war necessary? However, if a democratic and federal Iraq can come about post-Saddam, then the Kurds and everybody else in the country would benefit. The Kurds would support such a change if assurances were given for it.

2.         Talabani has requested German NBC military units to protect Kurdistan against attacks from Saddam. What has the PSK to say to such a request?

The Kurds would obviously be putting themselves at risk by giving the USA and its allies any support in such a war. Saddam’s missiles and tanks can not reach the US but Kurdish towns and cities are in easy range. If Saddam does possess biological and chemical weapons – and in all probability he does – he might use them against the defenseless Kurds as a last act of desperation, like a suicide bomber.

For this reason, the USA and its allies must make serious efforts to protect the people in the region.

3.         If the Kurds fight on the side of the USA in Iraq won’t they just be damaging themselves in the end?

Of course it could damage them. I have mentioned this earlier. However, there could be positive outcomes in certain situations. That’s what happened at the end of the Gulf War.

The Kurds did gain something at the end of the Gulf war. They currently live freely and independently under the protection of the allies north of the 36th parallel. They have a parliament and a government. They are building up their country with income from the UN-Programme “Oil for Food”. There is relative progress in the spheres of democracy and culture. But the Kurds do not want to lose what has already been achieved by a war whose outcome is unforeseeable.

If, following a war, a federal Iraq can be established of which the Kurds can be a part and which is internationally recognized, then this would be a gain from a Kurdish view point..

4.         Turkey can not just be spectator in a war against Saddam. How should the Kurds react if the Turkish army enters Iraq?

Turkey has no right to do this. We are strictly against any Turkish incursion into Iraq or southern Kurdistan. Whatever regime comes about in Iraq should be decided by the people of Iraq. The Kurds would defend themselves against any Turkish occupation.

5.         How should Kurdish youths in Turkey react in such a case? Are there calls from the PSK or other Kurdish parties to refuse military service or to desert?

We have always spoken out against aggressive Turkish policies and interference towards its neighbors, especially towards southern Kurdistan, and have done this publicly by means of statements, reports and appeals. Our message is aimed at Turkish as well as Kurdish youths who are sent to war for the militaristic and aggressive aims of the Turkish regime

6.         Are the PSK making any efforts to develop common policies with other Kurdish parties to be implemented in the event of a US war against Iraq and an incursion of the Turkish army into Kurdish regions in northern Iraq?

For a joint assessment of the situation, we have presented suggestions to the leading parties but the two Kurdish parties in southern Kurdistan (KDP and PUK) do not currently see a need for such.

7.         How should European peace movements and Kurdish exiles react to a US war against Saddam?

We Kurds are not in favor war between the USA and Saddam. However, we would be happy if at the end of the war Saddam was gone and a democratic and federal system was set up in Iraq. Saddam is a cruel dictator. We do not consider his opposition to the USA to be an “anti-imperial” act.

It is also the irrational, erroneous and irresponsible policies of Saddam’s chauvinistic Baath regime which has led to the tragic situation of the Iraqi people – for the Kurds and the Arabs.

If the regime had acknowledged the rights of the Kurds it could have led to peaceful coexistence within the country. Instead there has been a decades-long war against the Kurds with the country going from one disaster to the next (firstly the 8 year war against Iran and then the occupation of Kuwait).

We are of the opinion that the peace movement, who are rightly against any war, should also consider the above aspects in their deliberations.

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(*) Ms. Ulla Jelpke is member of the Democratic Socialism Party (PDS) and member of the Bundestag. In her party she is responsible for Foreign Affairs.

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